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Getting debunked

Spiritual people need to create a whole culture. You might have higher chakras more open than the ones you use for coping in the material world - once you open your root chakra, you are better with the materials than someone, who had it open when they were born; but if you don't do it - the materialistic people will get you debunked.


What means debunked:

  • You bring a good spiritual argument, but your words are somewhat distracted when you touch logical arguments. Very often, the spiritual models are mathematically very consistent - but if you are weak in math, you speak in a way that they do their work, but there seem to be mathematical inconsistencies.

  • You live a good life, but you are weakly connected with material world. Then, your spirituality look like wasting your time or creating unrealistic goals - and this is an argument, which gets you debunked, materially; as people do not trust your material activities, those get blocked. When the material world is blocked, it blocks also your spiritual world - you don't have the environment, food, etc., to organize your spiritual union and really have time and space with all these people.

  • Being debunked in a mass: many people originally from academic world or work life, once they raised their material awareness, got kicked out. There are material walls around this - we need to unify the spiritual people from all races, nations and religions, to gain together the minority, which is more enlightened, and join them to culture. Personal awakening is half of the story - the other half is cultural awakening, which also involves all chakras from material to the spiritual planes.


In the material world, spiritual things you do often do not get paid.


What we need:

  • Meditate over material world alone, and learn the 5 elements of Buddhism (or elements of any other system). Meditate over it's material structure: the officials and city space provide you with material infrastructure; the tastes, rooms, spaces, environments - you need to get a specific feeling about them; work hard to make this a material meditation, not social - on material level you want the things, objects, smells and tastes specifically; this has nothing to do with your relations with people who pay salaries, taxes, or bring you these things - your energy-magnet needs to be materially attributed. Create good karma with the material world; which appears as personally material - the objects and environments - and socially material - the people, like officials, who do the repetitious work and appear as your material condition - you need to have a materially strong shield about those things.

  • Create a culture. Spiritual people need to unite many like them, to get the following: logically and philosophically reasoned spiritual view, this is called science; the officials, companies, work environments, so that a spiritual people can access everything. The structures to produce food, computers, etc., which fit our spiritual views - for example, if you make computers with love, you probably won't affect the ecosystem and get better material karma; in case you only avoid harming the ecosystem, you really cannot benefit from this - there are many ways you harm the ecosystem, which you rather feel with your material heart, than thinking alone.


This is the material world - we need to cover all aspects of life, otherwise we are being debunked as a spiritual society. This means building a culture - people, who can cover all aspects of life in a spiritually awakened world; from material work to science, and this science would be taught to spiritual people so that they won't make stupid mistakes. About material world - people made such mistakes centuries ago, later they become educated; spiritual sciences progress slower in coherence of thinking and material attributes, and they lack this energy it gets. Also we need to break the walls of government offices and create new companies, so that we do not lack the material support - this is all material, as the attribute of government infrastructure or companies is to stay there and provide you with processes of material qualities - the quality that in office, you get your papers done, is not spiritual (like a party or music festival) but it's material quality of life itself, being stable and following the rules without thinking much. Matter is the same - stable and not thinking much, so a material object always gets the same work done. This is a material chakra of society itself, and operates like material element - once you get this open, you probably happen to meet a better officials in your life, and they have different views on you, also because you get your material thing done.

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tambetvali
20 mar 2024

To be exact: the word "heretic", then, does not directly mean "against the mainstream belief", but it directly means against the belief, which creates the main stream; namely, one of unity and goodness. Such belief has always been behind scenarios behind religion, always somehow won - and always became somehow a source of dogmas. Spiritualism tries to keep us free from dogmas; but by this we connect with the force, which creates the main stream - and, it's not "what pope said" or what this girl said in spiritual video of youtube, but as the modern science, or being modern itself, the spiritualism seeks one to pursue truth themselves. When truth comes from outside, it's open for manipulation and it's very slow to change and have effect - when it's doubted, just as science is supposed to do, truth finally comes from inside; it's open for change, effective and it's not open for manipulation. Such truth, definitely, is the main stream source of new truth - however long it takes for society to understand that, and however distorted it later gets in the hands of masses. Using the words "religion", "pagan" and "heretic" in their original sense, and then being able to see behind the events and criticize them in essence, not in how the words become to be used in time ..and seeing them in their new appearance in the modern era; where instead of black magic we got the materialistic black magic, which uses all the reasons and means of black magic - the fact that thought affects reality is there - to create similar environment to the horror we have seen black magic practitioners have done. This is a paganism; and when it happens in the subtle levels of modern society, we can also answer it in such level - it's the modern social warfare; but we can see how pagans attack the religious people, labeling them impractical to do business with; and how they affect the society and environment negatively - this, in effect, should be seen to be answered with kind of Holy War, which restores the environment and creates a society and a culture, which is able to answer all the challenges of modern society, but protect the religious people from being labeled, from being unacademized and unbusinessified; in academic, government and business world there is life going on; for example, every religious person pays to the tax system - but are the taxes uses to provide them with every religious need? It seems that the money does not come back, but it goes to an atheist. So this is a holy war to get a power to create all the physical life a religious people need, where they can help their own society - atheists are against helping a society or making the world better, so they must be left somehow in their own world with their own karma; but religious person is more social. The dogmatic belief system behind such controlling force, which, one by one, removes religious people from parts of system where they could provide stable environment for others like them - they should be called "heretics", not "skeptics" (I am skeptic myself, in terms that I really doubt in everything; and I doubt the atheist world very much - even things they found in science of material, an area they are supposed to know; even the materials might not behave like this and there might be a psychological system behind what we see; maybe we don't see it in it's whole beauty). Then, let's think that this deeper truth is really the main stream, it's where they all started from - the main streams ..becoming distorted later. I always try to find this original main stream in every religion; the heretic, then, is not against the current belief hold by many people - which is not a crime nor is it the original argument -, but they are against the deeper, stronger force creating the reality - where everything originates from. This justifies how I see the use of this word in the context of spiritualism.

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